Don't require Facebook for social features
Your recent demand that all social users engage through Facebook is a bad decidion. I will not allow my children to be exposed thru Facebook so you can make a few pennies in marketing kickbacks. We will never participate in an Oculus social media again and I will actively campaign online against you from this point on.
This is a bad move Oculus. The moment I can no longer use my Rift S without a Facebook login will be the moment you lose a faithful customer. I've been really happy with the Rift S but this is a showstopper for me and most of the people I know in the VR community.
I originaly posted this over in the Oculus Quest section, I encourage everyone who has a quest as well to vote over there to support this movement further, Thank you everyone for continuing to try to be heard!
Bad move FB and Oculus!
This is absolutely unfair to the community!
Don't you remember promising us "The VR and Oculus Community" that you would never force Facebook login!
You lied to us, We feel betrayed!
I've supported you since day one!
I was one of those DK2 users who saw the potential in you're Wonderful creations!
I even went out and bought two Quests and a Rift S even though I was aware you were bought up by Facebook A company I'm against!
And this is how you show you're respect and love to you're users and the rest of the VR community!?
By forcing new and old users to use FB Login!
Not only that but you refuse to even support the Rift S user base!
And to add the cherry on top of this disgusting cake you've made you finally decided to give us multi user login if we use FB!
Facebook won't even allow me to make an account under my Virtual Identity, Witch I already struggle to even think of giving them that!
If you don't fix this I'll be switching to another platform by 2023...
BTW Valve was right, The Cake is a lie... I guess I'll be buying an index...
If they really go through with this, I guess I have a $400 paperweight.
I, as a customer, was acquired by FB when they acquired Oculus. I have been an early adopter, had DK1 and 2, and have encouraged 32 people to select Oculus. Oculus Rift delivered on a long standing dream for consumer VR.
I have supported the company by purchasing my preferred VR games via the Oculus store where possible, often taking a financial hit, in order to support a key VR hardware creator.
While I can appreciate a level of optional integration with the parent companies social media - should there come a time that there is an absolute requirement to login to FB, I will and no longer make any purchases through the Oculus store. I will provide my point of view to the folk that purchased based on my past advice, and let them make their own decisions. There is no reason valid to a consumer to enforce the authentication through a separate social media platform, in my view.
I have had the Rift since a couple of months after release. I will be looking for new gen hardware in the next 12 months, and will not consider Oculus if social media login is a requirement.
It would be a shame to damage long standing loyal partnerships you have with your customers; so I recommend you continue to keep FB login as an option to enable social media features for those that want it.
Harrihu Inkpen commented
I want in on any class actions and will sign any petitions I find. I'm giving them a week to reconsider then returning my product if nothing changes and deleting my Facebook account. I know it won't make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things but whatever. I won't participate.
I've talked with a few very high powered law firms and they stated that this could be a huge Class Action Lawsuit. Be interesting to see how many start the process and merge all the small ones into just one large Class Action.
100% will not be sticking with occulus if im required to log in via facebook....
This is stupid and a REALLY bad idea some of us got into this pre facebook and all tho we are all happy you guys sold and made some god coin... We dont want to use facebook this will kill your product
This is a dealbreaker for me. If this decision stands I will no longer consider Oculus headsets or using the Oculus store for future purchases.
As someone who's had a oculus account since 2012 (Not sure how to log-in with it here tho) I'm incredibly disheartened by this move. I supported the oculus ecosystem under the pretense that at the very least my app library/DRM would remain disconnected from my facebook account. Unless you add some level of support for oculus acounts I will no longer be supporting oculus going forward.
You should be offering refunds to all the people you lied to/misled if you are seriously going to break promises in such a big way. The main division of facebook has NOT earned my trust. Facebook has engaged in tons of sketchy and questionable privacy violations. Please reconsider this incredibly anti-consumer decision you are making.
If they decide to follow through with this decision, I'm honestly just going to cancel my order.
We could add friends without FaceBook before.
Now we can't.
This retroactive blocking of features is unacceptable.
I paid for this device, and yet not only do I have to accept a stupid privacy agreement, or not get to use my 350$ device, but now you're cutting off pieces of what was there before and then selling it at the premium of a FaceBook account?
This is exactly what you said you wouldn't do, and yet look where we are.
The next headset I get will likely be a Reverb G2.
In fact I'd rather recommend people to use Windows 10 on an update they can't go back from than recommend something that forces people to use FaceBook.
I think it's obvious enough at this point that people don't want FaceBook on their VR headsets. You already have a social app separate from what we need to run our headsets. Stick to that, let us use the devices we paid a premium to not run FaceBook on.
fakebook is a showstopper for this. no thanks.
This change has officially made my Quest worthless to me. I'll be selling it. I do not want to go through the privacy **** that Facebook caused me back when I had it again. And I am not ok with them removing the social features from the headset after I paid $400 for it.
Ryan Brown commented
This will never change. Do you really think Facebook cares abkut their consumers feels? They have proven time and time again that they do not. I will not be purchasing another oculus product. My next headset will be Valve or HTC.
Users now have no access to contact Oculus friends, chat, party up, or visit homes whatsoever at all now, features that were once accessible to all at the time of purchase of this product. It should not be necessary for one to sign up, or log into external social services or 3rd party websites in order to access features provided solely through the Oculus application.
This is extremely disappointing, and huge detriment to the Oculus community and user base. Please let me know if there is an alternative to accessing Oculus Home and Oculus social features (such as connecting with OCULUS friends) without using a Facebook account. I am not willing to use Facebook or connect to any external social networking website simply to access basic features that were once available to customers who purchased your product.
Your company should note that, whatever the reason for this change, it is garnering an extremely negative reaction from the user community, including myself. The retroactive exclusion of 1st party content due to any agreement with Facebook is tantamount to extortion/fraud of your current customer base, and should be remedied. Until then, I am boycotting the Oculus Store entirely.
Thor's Hammer commented
I can't speak for the US, but don't make European Parliament kick your butt for infringing on basic privacy law. To be able to use EchoVR in full, you make it mandatory to create a Facebook account. I got one, but I'll fight for people how do not want Facebook in their life.
what the actual **** oculus? get the ******** you piece of ****. this is absolutely unacceptable
Absolutely fuming! My son saved for his oculus quest and only found out last night about having to link to FB to accept friends! He doesn’t have FB and I begging to link to mine! What do I do? So ANGRY about this! How dare you sell something without making this general knowledge to the public! SCAMMERS! FURIOUS!
What the heck!? How are kids supposed to add friends now? This is my account but they play exclusively I don't want a ton of kids as FB friends. This is purely the dumbest Idea ever. This is the end of Occulus for our household.
Jarred Duke commented
Can you imagine entering a large grocery store, filling a cart full of products, walking up to the counter and fully expecting to pay for your purchase like you have a zillion times only to be told hey, you need to sign up for a membership with us to buy these products... If you don't, feel free to walk around the store but you cant purchase anything.
This is what happened to us Oculus Users. Oculus Team Listen: Your department did not THINK. Your **** for collecting metrics will be your demise. Speaking of metrics surely you know new generations don't like Facebook - and this is one reason why. You're hiding information collection with "engaging social features" that genuinely suck and are not needed. I'm sorry, but I have discord or skype for communication. If I'm going to join a friend's game he's going to invite me from INSIDE the game.
You need to remember this Pillar: VR is for experiences we cannot have in the real world. You made your avatars resemble real people. I liked having a galaxy of stars as my skin. You took that away to increase social connectivity? Adding Facebook as a mandate for communication makes my eyes roll the same way they did when I found out years ago Oculus was bought by Facebook. Let Oculus be Oculus FB. Dont intrude. Have manners and LISTEN TO THIS FORUM! Contact me directly if you want someone who can do things right. Thanks, Jarred -VR Gamer & Developer